Bug 100832

Summary: unable to find bugs I've opened -- bug searching nearly useless
Product: Documentation Reporter: Jo Rhett <jrhett>
Component: Books & ArticlesAssignee: Gabor Kovesdan <gabor>
Status: Closed FIXED    
Severity: Affects Only Me    
Priority: Normal    
Version: Latest   
Hardware: Any   
OS: Any   

Description Jo Rhett 2006-07-25 21:50:13 UTC
So I wanted to find a list of bugs I've opened.

I put "jrhett" in Originator.  Nothing.
I put "svcolo" in Originator".  Nothing
I put "jrhett" in Single-Line Fields.  Nothing.

Huh?  I'm about to give up in frustration when I try

I put "rhett" in Originator - found about half of my open bugs.  None of my closed bugs.

Searching appears to be nearly useless for my needs.

Fix: 

Originator searching should include e-mail addresses.
Originator searching should include closed bugs in list.

Originator searching should include all results. (several I have in my inbox don't show up there)
How-To-Repeat: put "jrhett" in Originator.  Nothing.
put "svcolo" in Originator".  Nothing
put "jrhett" in Single-Line Fields.  Nothing.
Comment 1 Pav Lucistnik freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2006-07-25 22:38:02 UTC
State Changed
From-To: open->feedback

If I search for bugs with originator Rhett, I get 11 lines in listing. 
Note that GNATS (software used for a bug tracker) does not search email 
addresses, just names. 

For searching in closed bugs, just tick Closed reports too checkbox. 

Clear now? :) 


Comment 2 Pav Lucistnik freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2006-07-25 22:38:02 UTC
Responsible Changed
From-To: freebsd-www->pav

Deal with this
Comment 3 Jo Rhett 2006-07-25 22:51:20 UTC
Why is there a "State" pulldown with Open/Closed and a checkbox as  
well.  I checked the former, but overlooked the latter.  Duplication  
of the field can't possibly be useful.

And yes -- I understand that it doesn't search e-mail fields.  That's  
why its a bug.  Searching based on last name is useless.  Do you know  
the proper spelling for the last names of all the people you chat  
with on a regular basis?  No... How about their three-letter e-mail  
address?  Yes.  See?

-- 
Jo Rhett
senior geek
Silicon Valley Colocation
Comment 4 Pav Lucistnik freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2006-07-25 23:06:10 UTC
>  Why is there a "State" pulldown with Open/Closed and a checkbox as  
>  well.  I checked the former, but overlooked the latter.  Duplication  
>  of the field can't possibly be useful.

So you can search all states but closed. How would you do that with just
the pulldown?
 
>  And yes -- I understand that it doesn't search e-mail fields.  That's  
>  why its a bug.  Searching based on last name is useless.  Do you know  
>  the proper spelling for the last names of all the people you chat  
>  with on a regular basis?  No... How about their three-letter e-mail  
>  address?  Yes.  See?

Well, I remember their names but not their email addresses. But
whatever.

GNATS is a third-party software. I just don't see a chance for us to do
some local bending of it.

-- 
Pav Lucistnik <pav@oook.cz>
              <pav@FreeBSD.org>

See file. Click file. Get file.
Comment 5 Jo Rhett 2006-07-25 23:21:52 UTC
On Jul 25, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Pav Lucistnik wrote:
>>  Why is there a "State" pulldown with Open/Closed and a checkbox as
>>  well.  I checked the former, but overlooked the latter.  Duplication
>>  of the field can't possibly be useful.
>
> So you can search all states but closed. How would you do that with  
> just
> the pulldown?

Choose "Closed" in the State pulldown?  Seems simple to me.

And "Any" in the State pulldown clearly is not Any -- it's "Any  
except for Closed"

And seriously, how should I find closed bug reports?  Do I have to  
choose "Closed" and ALSO click the checkbox?  This makes no sense.   
It's far beyond counter-intuitive.

Intuitive might be a state list that doesn't include Closed and put  
the checkbox right beside it, where the eye is already focused.  If  
the checkbox is really necessary, which I just don't see.

>>  And yes -- I understand that it doesn't search e-mail fields.   
>> That's
>>  why its a bug.  Searching based on last name is useless.  Do you  
>> know
>>  the proper spelling for the last names of all the people you chat
>>  with on a regular basis?  No... How about their three-letter e-mail
>>  address?  Yes.  See?
>
> Well, I remember their names but not their email addresses. But
> whatever.
>
> GNATS is a third-party software. I just don't see a chance for us  
> to do
> some local bending of it.

I guess the answer is for me to file a bug report with them.  But  
seriously, doesn't someone "own" the bug database?  If so, they are  
probably already familiar with the GNATs bug system/process and how  
to get things reported and/or fixed...

-- 
Jo Rhett
senior geek
Silicon Valley Colocation
Comment 6 Pav Lucistnik freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2006-07-26 08:56:09 UTC
> >>  Why is there a "State" pulldown with Open/Closed and a checkbox as
> >>  well.  I checked the former, but overlooked the latter.  Duplication
> >>  of the field can't possibly be useful.
> >
> > So you can search all states but closed. How would you do that with  
> > just
> > the pulldown?
> 
> Choose "Closed" in the State pulldown?  Seems simple to me.
> 
> And "Any" in the State pulldown clearly is not Any -- it's "Any  
> except for Closed"
> 
> And seriously, how should I find closed bug reports?  Do I have to  
> choose "Closed" and ALSO click the checkbox?  This makes no sense.   
> It's far beyond counter-intuitive.
> 
> Intuitive might be a state list that doesn't include Closed and put  
> the checkbox right beside it, where the eye is already focused.  If  
> the checkbox is really necessary, which I just don't see.

> > GNATS is a third-party software. I just don't see a chance for us  
> > to do
> > some local bending of it.
> 
> I guess the answer is for me to file a bug report with them.  But  
> seriously, doesn't someone "own" the bug database?  If so, they are  
> probably already familiar with the GNATs bug system/process and how  
> to get things reported and/or fixed...

Well, if you're only after changing the query-pr-summary.cgi web form,
then we can work on that.

Changing the search logic with respect to originator field would require
changes to vendor code. Note that we're running really ancient version
of GNATS, so reporting to the vendor might not be all that useful.

-- 
Pav Lucistnik <pav@oook.cz>
              <pav@FreeBSD.org>

"Ragtime" contained about forty-five seconds of Elizabeth McGovern completely
topless, but it got a "PG" in 1980. I have no idea why that did, or "Titanic"
got PG-13, yet "Merchant of Venice" gets tagged with an "R". The MPAA is an
intellectual and aesthetic embarassment.
  -- comment from IMDb board on US movie rating system
Comment 7 Pav Lucistnik freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2006-07-26 09:12:16 UTC
State Changed
From-To: feedback->open

Some feedback obtained 


Comment 8 Pav Lucistnik freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2006-07-26 09:12:16 UTC
Responsible Changed
From-To: pav->freebsd-www

Assign back to the pool.
Comment 9 Jo Rhett 2006-07-26 17:11:16 UTC
On Jul 26, 2006, at 12:56 AM, Pav Lucistnik wrote:
> Changing the search logic with respect to originator field would  
> require
> changes to vendor code. Note that we're running really ancient version
> of GNATS, so reporting to the vendor might not be all that useful.

Are these things fixed in newer versions?  If so, then why not just  
change the bug to "please upgrade GNATS" ?

-- 
Jo Rhett
senior geek
Silicon Valley Colocation
Comment 10 Pav Lucistnik freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2006-07-27 08:49:39 UTC
> > Changing the search logic with respect to originator field would  
> > require
> > changes to vendor code. Note that we're running really ancient version
> > of GNATS, so reporting to the vendor might not be all that useful.
> 
> Are these things fixed in newer versions?  If so, then why not just  
> change the bug to "please upgrade GNATS" ?

My understanding of GNATS upgrade issues is that no one from the group
of people who have the rights to do this, have time or will to do this.

-- 
Pav Lucistnik <pav@oook.cz>
              <pav@FreeBSD.org>

And the sign said long haired, freaky people need not apply.
Comment 11 Gabor Kovesdan freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2007-03-13 12:52:51 UTC
State Changed
From-To: open->closed

Hi Jo, 

I understand your concerns about it, but as Pav said, the search engine 
belongs to GNATS not our script, so we cannot do much about this. 

As for the states, I think the current behhaviour is practical. An interested 
party usually looks for PRs that are not closed, but still should be solved. 
When I look for something to work on, I also need to dig amongst non-closed 
reports, so i think it suffices the most needs. 
Committers can search via the query-pr command line interface and grep in 
PRs. But you don't have to be a committer to do so, you can mirror the GNATS 
database if you want to run a more advanced search, you can decide if it's 
worth to you. Check /usr/share/examples/cvsup/gnats-supfile if you want to 
fetch the PR database. 

Unfortunately, I cannot offer a simpler solution for you, so I'm closing this 
PR now, since it is open for a long time, but did not get us any step forward. 
If you have any comments or suggestions, please feel free to reply. 

Regards, 
Gabor 


Comment 12 Gabor Kovesdan freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2007-03-13 12:52:51 UTC
Responsible Changed
From-To: freebsd-www->gabor

Track.