Bug 115774

>
>>Description:
> Users who submit messages to mailing lists aren't warned about the public
> exposure of their email address or other information.
>>How-To-Repeat:
> Submit a message to a FreeBSD mailing list.
>>Fix:
> Apply this patch to
> usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml.
>
> >
> --- chapter.sgml.orig	Thu Aug 23 19:56:29 2007
> +++ chapter.sgml	Thu Aug 23 20:28:12 2007
> @@ -40,6 +40,14 @@
>        mailing lists ultimately fail as an effective communications medium
> for
>        the project.</para>
>
> +    <caution>
> +      <para>Email addresses and other information you submit to &os;
> lists
> +        will be visible to many people through multiple methods (the
> list,
> +        the web, newsgroups, and others). When protecting privacy is a
> +        concern, consider using a disposable secondary email address and
> +        posting only public information.</para>
> +    </caution>
> +
>      <note>
>        <para><emphasis>If you wish to test your ability to send to
>  	&os; lists, send a test message to &a.test.name;.</emphasis>
>
>

Hello,

I am not sure whether we 'must' explicitly mention this. As on any
mailinglist , that has publically available archives. I dont see
any other big list mentioning this. I dont feel confident with this
idea.

-- 
Kind regards,

     Remko Lodder               ** remko@elvandar.org
     FreeBSD                    ** remko@FreeBSD.org

     /* Quis custodiet ipsos custodes */

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Remko Lodder wrote:

>>> Description:
>> Users who submit messages to mailing lists aren't warned about the public
>> exposure of their email address or other information.
>>> How-To-Repeat:
>> Submit a message to a FreeBSD mailing list.
>>> Fix:
>> Apply this patch to
>> usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml.
>>
>> >>
>> --- chapter.sgml.orig	Thu Aug 23 19:56:29 2007
>> +++ chapter.sgml	Thu Aug 23 20:28:12 2007
>> @@ -40,6 +40,14 @@
>>        mailing lists ultimately fail as an effective communications medium
>> for
>>        the project.</para>
>>
>> +    <caution>
>> +      <para>Email addresses and other information you submit to &os; lists
>> +        will be visible to many people through multiple methods (the list,
>> +        the web, newsgroups, and others). When protecting privacy is a
>> +        concern, consider using a disposable secondary email address and
>> +        posting only public information.</para>
>> +    </caution>
>> +
>>      <note>
>>        <para><emphasis>If you wish to test your ability to send to
>>  	&os; lists, send a test message to &a.test.name;.</emphasis>
>
> I am not sure whether we 'must' explicitly mention this. As on any
> mailinglist , that has publically available archives. I dont see
> any other big list mentioning this. I dont feel confident with this
> idea.

The issue comes up on the mailing lists from time to time.  Currently, 
people are told after posting that their formerly-private email address 
has now been posted around the world, and it's too late to do anything 
about that.

Isn't it better to explain that beforehand?

Maybe a <note> instead of <caution>?

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA

Comment 3 Tom Rhodes 2008-01-26 10:07:44 UTC

State Changed
From-To: open->closed

If an individual submits to a mailing list they should assume the email to be 
public.  We also have mentions of email archives on the site which hints to 
the fact they are archived.  Close this PR as I agree with Remko, thanks for 
the submission. 

Comment 4 Tom Rhodes 2008-01-26 10:07:44 UTC

Responsible Changed
From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes

Over to me as closer.

Comment 5 Tom Rhodes 2008-01-27 00:45:01 UTC

State Changed
From-To: closed->analyzed

Closed->analyzed.  trhodes->murray.  Murray agrees with the submitter, re-open 
this PR and pass it off.  Thanks! 

Comment 6 Tom Rhodes 2008-01-27 00:45:01 UTC

Responsible Changed
From-To: trhodes->murray

Closed->analyzed.  trhodes->murray.  Murray agrees with the submitter, re-open 
this PR and pass it off.  Thanks!

Comment 7 dfilter service 2008-12-15 00:10:25 UTC

murray      2008-12-15 00:10:17 UTC

  FreeBSD doc repository

  Modified files:
    en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources chapter.sgml 
  Log:
  Reword the introduction to de-emphasize the primacy of USENET as a
  FreeBSD community communication channel, and add a reference to web
  forums.
  
  Reword the paragraph about choosing the appropriate mailing list to
  again de-emphasize USENET and encourage the user to choose the most
  appropriate technical mailing list according to the charters.
  
  Note that freebsd mailing list archives are kept in perpetuity, and
  users with privacy conerns should consider using a disposable
  secondary email address and only posting public information. [1]
  
  Re-organize the "Web Resources" section into a new first section about
  "Forums, Blogs, and Social Networks" with references to the FreeBSD
  Forums, Planet FreeBSD, and the BSDConferences YouTube channel.
  
  Move the long list of web mirrors to a second section appropriately
  titled as such.  The former section just listed many dozen mirrors of
  www.freebsd.org under "web resources" which was less useful.
  
  PR:             docs/115774 (requested [1] only)
  Suggested by:   Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> ([1] only)
  
  Revision  Changes    Path
  1.196     +43 -12    doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml
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Comment 8 Murray Stokely 2008-12-15 00:11:05 UTC

State Changed
From-To: analyzed->closed

I've reorganized this appendix a bit in a recent commit, and I added 
your sentence about protecting privacy by using a secondary address 
and posting only public information.  The website will be live with 
this new change within ~6 hours.  Thanks for your submission!