Bug 129281
| Summary: | Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands | ||
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| Product: | Documentation | Reporter: | yuri |
| Component: | Books & Articles | Assignee: | Marc Fonvieille <blackend> |
| Status: | Closed FIXED | ||
| Severity: | Affects Only Me | ||
| Priority: | Normal | ||
| Version: | Latest | ||
| Hardware: | Any | ||
| OS: | Any | ||
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Description
yuri
2008-11-29 21:10:08 UTC
The fact one or some burners fail with burncd(8) is not a reason to delete documentation. The "7.3.2 Ripping CD Audio Tracks" section documents cdda2wav for both interfaces. I'd not remove/rename the ATAPI Drives since it's a feature provided by FreeBSD, people are free to use or not the "/dev/acddtnn" feature especially when the ripped file can be directly used by burncd(8). (Don't forget both come with the base system). But I think we can slightly reword this "18.6.5 Duplicating Audio CDs" section to mention ATAPI interface supports both cdda2wav and dd(1) method and that cdda2wav may be a better choice in many cases. -- Marc On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 09:04:14PM +0000, Yuri wrote:
> My proposition:
> Sub-section "ATAPI Drives" should be deleted.
> Title of "SCSI Drives" should be changed to "SCSI/ATAPI Drives".
>
> ATAPI drives are exposed as SCSI devices so there should be no problem.
I do not particularly care for the self-advertisement of Joerg for his
own software, but at least the last sentence is not true. On FreeBSD,
exposing ATAPI devices as SCSI is just a choice that the user is free to
make (or not). The use of the atapicam module or kernel option is just
that, entirely optional. Also, atapicam may have at least as many
problems with particular hardware/software combinations as burncd, so
YMMV. I for one use burncd and I am perfectly happy with it.
Note: One other reason people used to prefer "cdrecord" was that it was
a standard staple on linux, and so a lot of pretty GUI frontends were
written for it that do little more than call cdrecord with the correct
arguments. For me, this is not important, burning from the command line
just works(TM).
--
Regards:
Szilveszter ADAM
Budapest
Hungary
Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> But I think we can slightly reword this "18.6.5 Duplicating Audio CDs"
> section to mention ATAPI interface supports both cdda2wav and dd(1)
> method and that cdda2wav may be a better choice in many cases.
>
There is another pitfall of dd method: kern/115232: [ata] Audio CD
tracks not displayed properly by atapi driver
The warning about this should also be added to the section describing
the use of dd/burncd method
if this section is left there anyway.
--
Yuri
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:50:03PM +0000, Yuri wrote:
> The following reply was made to PR docs/129281; it has been noted by GNATS.
>
> From: Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com>
> To: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>
> Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend
> the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands
> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:18:56 -0800
>
> Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> > But I think we can slightly reword this "18.6.5 Duplicating Audio CDs"
> > section to mention ATAPI interface supports both cdda2wav and dd(1)
> > method and that cdda2wav may be a better choice in many cases.
> >
>
> There is another pitfall of dd method: kern/115232: [ata] Audio CD
> tracks not displayed properly by atapi driver
> The warning about this should also be added to the section describing
> the use of dd/burncd method
This is documented:
--
Make sure the appropriate files exist in /dev. If the entries are
missing, force the system to retaste the media:
# dd if=/dev/acd0 of=/dev/null count=1
--
which is a workaround to the problem you experienced.
--
Marc
Responsible Changed From-To: freebsd-doc->blackend Take care of it. State Changed From-To: open->closed A note has been added to encourage people to use cdda2wav instead of dd. Thanks. blackend 2010-08-10 08:51:37 UTC
FreeBSD doc repository
Modified files:
en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks chapter.sgml
Log:
Add a note mentioning that cdda2wav can also be used on ATAPI drives and
that this choice can be a better one than the dd(1) method for question
of jitter correction, etc.
PR: docs/129281
Submitted by: Yuri <yuri@tsoft.com>
Revision Changes Path
1.295 +9 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml
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