Bug 160284

Summary: [patch] Inconsistent spacing between colons in French translation of Dtrace Handbook chapter.
Product: Documentation Reporter: Isabell Long <isabell121>
Component: Books & ArticlesAssignee: Marc Fonvieille <blackend>
Status: Closed FIXED    
Severity: Affects Only Me    
Priority: Normal    
Version: Latest   
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Description Isabell Long 2011-08-29 17:50:06 UTC
I was just reading through the recently committed French translation of the
Dtrace Handbook chapter and noticed a few punctuation inconsistencies that
I hadn't picked up on when I proofread my translation.  Sometimes, there is
no space before a colon, but at other times there is.  For other French
translations, convention seems to be no space before a colon.  The attached
patch fixes these inconsistencies for this document.

Fix: See attached patch.

Patch attached with submission follows:
Comment 1 Chris Rees freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2011-08-29 17:56:12 UTC
I may be incorrect here, but IIRC aren't "les deux-points" space
padded in French? As in, you've corrected the correct versions?

Chris
Comment 2 Isabell Long 2011-08-29 18:05:45 UTC
Hi,

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Chris Rees wrote:

> I may be incorrect here, but IIRC aren't "les deux-points" space
> padded in French? As in, you've corrected the correct versions?

I thought so too, but it seems from translations of other chapters and 
some edits to this chapter after I sent it to be committed, that 
convention is not to put spaces before them.  I just removed the three 
spaces that had not been removed previously, but pretty obviously should 
have been.  :-)

Isabell.
Comment 3 Marc Fonvieille freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2011-08-29 20:45:18 UTC
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 05:40:13PM +0000, Isabell Long wrote:
> The following reply was made to PR docs/160284; it has been noted by GNATS.
> 
> From: Isabell Long <isabell121@gmail.com>
> To: Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>
> Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: docs/160284: [patch] Inconsistent spacing between colons in
>  French translation of Dtrace Handbook chapter.
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:05:45 +0100 (BST)
> 
>  Hi,
>  
>  On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Chris Rees wrote:
>  
>  > I may be incorrect here, but IIRC aren't "les deux-points" space
>  > padded in French? As in, you've corrected the correct versions?
>  
>  I thought so too, but it seems from translations of other chapters and 
>  some edits to this chapter after I sent it to be committed, that 
>  convention is not to put spaces before them.  I just removed the three 
>  spaces that had not been removed previously, but pretty obviously should 
>  have been.  :-)
>

The spaces (non-breaking space for a colon) should be added during the
conversion from SGML to the final format (if the stylesheet is correct,
etc.) and should not be present in the source code.  In french
there are many different spaces, it'd be very painful/difficult to add
them in the source code, it's the stylesheet job.  The same principle is
used when you type a LaTeX document: you don't have to worry about
spaces if you added \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} for example.

I missed these spaces before the check-in.

Regarding the rendering of the French, last time I really looked at it
there was issues but it was about 10 years ago... and no time to go
further.

-- 
Marc
Comment 4 Marc Fonvieille freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2011-09-10 14:43:25 UTC
Responsible Changed
From-To: freebsd-doc->blackend

Let's grab it.
Comment 5 Marc Fonvieille freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2011-09-10 14:50:56 UTC
State Changed
From-To: open->closed

I just removed the spaces, so the rendering is fixed.  It's not the best 
solution but for the moment it works :) 
Thanks for the PR.
Comment 6 dfilter service freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2011-09-10 14:50:59 UTC
blackend    2011-09-10 13:50:45 UTC

  FreeBSD doc repository

  Modified files:
    fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/dtrace chapter.sgml 
  Log:
  Remove some "breaking space" before colons that lead to a weird
  rendering.  This should, maybe, be handled by the stylesheet but I have
  to time to investigate.
  
  PR:             docs/160284
  Submitted by:   Isabell Long <isabell121@gmail.com>
  
  Revision  Changes    Path
  1.2       +3 -3      doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/dtrace/chapter.sgml
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