Bug 25783

Comment 1 John Baldwin 2001-03-14 00:55:08 UTC

On 14-Mar-01 dan@freebsddiary.rg wrote:
> 
>>Number:         25783
>>Category:       docs
>>Synopsis:       Add a new rule to the Committer Guide
>>Confidential:   no
>>Severity:       non-critical
>>Priority:       low
>>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>>State:          open
>>Quarter:        
>>Keywords:       
>>Date-Required:
>>Class:          change-request
>>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>>Arrival-Date:   Tue Mar 13 16:30:01 PST 2001
>>Closed-Date:
>>Last-Modified:
>>Originator:     Dan Langille
>>Release:        FreeBSD 4.3-BETA i386
>>Organization:
> The FreeBSD Diary / FreshPorts
>>Environment:
> System: FreeBSD xeon.int.nz.freebsd.org 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #1: Tue Mar
> 13 13:03:33 NZDT 2001 root@xeon.int.nz.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XEON
> i386
> 
> 
>>Description:
>       The Committer Guide refers to respecting other committers.  It should
>       also including respecting other contributors.
>>How-To-Repeat:
>       see http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/committers-guide/x800.html
>>Fix:
> 
>       patch included.

Hmm, the only thing I see with this (the patch looks ok) is that the rules in
the CG were actually a list of rules that were drafted by -core and voted on by
the committers about a year or so ago.  I'm not sure one can just add new rules
out of the blue, but then again there is no provision for what to do with
proposed changes to the rules.  Nik?

FWIW, the point you raise is important, and I would hope that it wouldn't even
need to be explicit.  Then again, the same is true of respecting other
committers.

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Does support exist for this or not?  Should it be closed or committed?  
So far I've had feedback from only three committers, and that was 
positive.

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Comment 3 David E. O'Brien 2001-03-21 05:06:14 UTC

> Hmm, the only thing I see with this (the patch looks ok) is that the
> rules in the CG were actually a list of rules that were drafted by
> -core and voted on by the committers about a year or so ago.

Correct.  Rules cannot be just added by anyone at a whim.  The rules
when thru a long debative process and then were formally ratified.
On this point, I object to this being committed.

Also, The Rules were purposely kept to a minimal set.  This patch goes
against that desire; and so I object to the patch on this point also.

On 20 Mar 2001, at 21:06, obrien@FreeBSD.org wrote:

> > Hmm, the only thing I see with this (the patch looks ok) is that the
> > rules in the CG were actually a list of rules that were drafted by
> > -core and voted on by the committers about a year or so ago.
> 
> Correct.  Rules cannot be just added by anyone at a whim.  The rules
> when thru a long debative process and then were formally ratified.
> On this point, I object to this being committed.

This isn't a whim.  It's been long thought upon.  I have no problem with a 
long debative process followed by a formal ratification if that's what you 
want

> Also, The Rules were purposely kept to a minimal set.  This patch goes
> against that desire; and so I object to the patch on this point also.

Do you actually agree with the concepts behind the rule?  Debating it on 
procedure is one thing.  But I feel you're avoiding the bigger issue.

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Comment 5 Poul-Henning Kamp 2001-03-28 11:55:50 UTC

State Changed
From-To: open->closed

Committed, thanks!