Bug 273667

Summary: mail-archive.freebsd.org 'current' is ambiguous
Product: Services Reporter: Graham Perrin <grahamperrin>
Component: Mailing ListsAssignee: Cluster Admin <clusteradm>
Status: Closed FIXED    
Severity: Affects Some People CC: minsoochoo0122, mirror176, wosch
Priority: --- Keywords: needs-qa
Version: unspecified   
Hardware: Any   
OS: Any   
URL: https://mail-archive.freebsd.org/mail/current/

Description Graham Perrin 2023-09-10 02:38:37 UTC 
Someone in Reddit was puzzled by the apparent absence of an announcement for something. 

I was similarly puzzled, these three all 'Messages: 0': 

<https://mail-archive.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-announce.html>
<https://mail-archive.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-current.html>
<https://mail-archive.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-stable.html>

I browsed away, to <https://mail-archive.freebsd.org/mail/> where, for the yearly archive (not for the current archive) it's noted that archive will be updated every week on Sunday morning. 

Does each current archive also begin at 0 on Sunday morning? 

The ambiguity is, partly, that for many people, a week begins on Monday.
Comment 1 Edward.Sanford.Sutton, III 2023-09-18 23:32:38 UTC 
Though a workweek generally is said to be Monday through Friday, calendars are still common in places such as USA with each week's line starting with Sunday and Christian (as a result of Jewish) religion defines it as the start of a week. It's not like everyone fully adopted ISO 8601 form the 80s and lives by it or else they wouldn't be upset with things like:
zfs snapshot -r tank@`date -u "+%Y%m%dT%H%M%SZ"`
for reasons other than I left out the dashes and colons (guess I could add fractional second too). Stating what is done with 'calendar math' is always wise and I thank whatever developers wanted to inform its users when these splits happen to begin with; it saved me refreshing a list when I needed to move to the next list more than once in the past.
Comment 2 Minsoo Choo 2023-11-25 16:38:53 UTC 
Following the ISO standard (starting from Monday) seems better. Therefore, this report should be moved to Services->Mailing Lists
Comment 3 Wolfram Schneider freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2023-12-12 17:17:44 UTC 
I agree that we should rotate the mailing list archive Monday morning 0:00 UTC. 


We should do the switch in the last week of Dec 2023, before Dec 30th.
Comment 4 Wolfram Schneider freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2024-01-03 14:56:47 UTC 
The cron job for archive rotation will run on Monday instead Sunday from next week.