Bug 34758
| Summary: | Irrelevant comment in killall(1) manpage | ||
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| Product: | Documentation | Reporter: | Jakob Borg <jakob> |
| Component: | Books & Articles | Assignee: | freebsd-doc (Nobody) <doc> |
| Status: | Closed FIXED | ||
| Severity: | Affects Only Me | ||
| Priority: | Normal | ||
| Version: | Latest | ||
| Hardware: | Any | ||
| OS: | Any | ||
Jakob Borg wrote: > The manpage for killall(1) says: > > Be warned that typing killall name may not have the > desired effect on non-Linux systems, especially when done > by a privileged user. > > which, while perhaps correct, is not relevant for a FreeBSD system. Also, > the operating system kernel in use at a particular system should not influence > the behavior of killall. Well the point the author is trying to make is that on Solaris (and probably other systems) typing "killall" in a prompt is a surprise in itself, because it REBOOTS the system !!! You're right that this should exclude Linux systems only though :-) Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ On Sunday 10 February 2002 01.36, you wrote: > Jakob Borg wrote: > > The manpage for killall(1) says: > > > > Be warned that typing killall name may not have the > > desired effect on non-Linux systems, especially when done > > by a privileged user. > > > > which, while perhaps correct, is not relevant for a FreeBSD system. > > Also, the operating system kernel in use at a particular system should > > not influence the behavior of killall. > > Well the point the author is trying to make is that on Solaris (and > probably other systems) typing "killall" in a prompt is a surprise in > itself, because it REBOOTS the system !!! It does what the command says, yes, I know, been there, done that in my youth... My point was just that the Linuxness or non-Linuxness is not the point, since it's FreeBSD wer're talking about. -- Jakob Borg | jakob@borg.pp.se | +46 (0)46 397692 Kämnärsv. 3a214 / SE-226 46 Lund / Sweden State Changed From-To: open->closed The killall.1 manpage does not seem to contain the text posted. Are you sure this was on a 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD system? On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 06:33:29PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.ORG> writes: > > > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 02:36:20 +0200 (EET) > > > > Jakob Borg wrote: > > > > > The manpage for killall(1) says: > > > > > > Be warned that typing killall name may not have the > > > desired effect on non-Linux systems, especially when done > > > by a privileged user. > > > > > > which, while perhaps correct, is not relevant for a FreeBSD system. Also, > > > the operating system kernel in use at a particular system should not influence > > > the behavior of killall. > > > > Well the point the author is trying to make is that on Solaris (and > > probably other systems) typing "killall" in a prompt is a surprise in > > itself, because it REBOOTS the system !!! > > 1) The PR says it's on "FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386", but > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=killall&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+4.5-STABLE&format=html > doesn't have the text quoted. (I was wanting to look at a different > display format.) Is there a problem with with the CGI thing or with > the PR or me? This is a fun one: I guess the submitter made the same mistake I did once before. The manual page in question, containing the Linux-specific text, comes from the sysutils/psmisc port :) This is not a FreeBSD problem, this is a problem of the psmisc package and should be brought up with the psmisc author, Werner Almesberger <werner.almesberger@lrc.di.epfl.ch>. G'luck, Peter -- Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 Thit sentence is not self-referential because "thit" is not a word. On Monday 11 February 2002 09.50, Peter Pentchev wrote: > This is a fun one: I guess the submitter made the same mistake I did > once before. The manual page in question, containing the Linux-specific > text, comes from the sysutils/psmisc port :) This is not a FreeBSD > problem, this is a problem of the psmisc package and should be brought > up with the psmisc author, Werner Almesberger > <werner.almesberger@lrc.di.epfl.ch>. Indeed this seems to be the case. Thank you for clearing it up. -- Jakob Borg | jakob@borg.pp.se | +46 (0)46 397692 Kämnärsv. 3a214 / SE-226 46 Lund / Sweden "Jakob Borg" <jakob@borg.pp.se> writes: > On Monday 11 February 2002 09.50, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > This is a fun one: I guess the submitter made the same mistake I did > > once before. The manual page in question, containing the Linux-specific > > text, comes from the sysutils/psmisc port :) This is not a FreeBSD > > problem, this is a problem of the psmisc package and should be brought > > up with the psmisc author, Werner Almesberger > > <werner.almesberger@lrc.di.epfl.ch>. > > Indeed this seems to be the case. Thank you for clearing it up. From pkg-comment: A port of the Linux pstree, killall and pidof commands It seems wrong to ask the Linux people to make the Linux "killall" man page to not mention "Linux" (or "non-Linux" in this case). I suppose it makes some sense, so others will disagree, but if you're going to ask them to change, please be extraordinarily polite. I've CC'd the port maintainer. Let's see what he has to say about it. On Monday 11 February 2002 18.38, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > From pkg-comment: > A port of the Linux pstree, killall and pidof commands > > It seems wrong to ask the Linux people to make the Linux "killall" man > page to not mention "Linux" (or "non-Linux" in this case). I suppose > it makes some sense, so others will disagree, but if you're going to ask > them to change, please be extraordinarily polite. I wouldn't presume to suggest that that manpage be changed - my entire problem report was dependant on it being a FreeBSD manpage, which it isn't. I think the report has the status 'closed' now, and it would be best to leave it there. -- Jakob Borg | jakob@borg.pp.se | +46 (0)46 397692 Kämnärsv. 3a214 / SE-226 46 Lund / Sweden |
The manpage for killall(1) says: Be warned that typing killall name may not have the desired effect on non-Linux systems, especially when done by a privileged user. which, while perhaps correct, is not relevant for a FreeBSD system. Also, the operating system kernel in use at a particular system should not influence the behavior of killall. Fix: Replace with warning about FreeBSD or non-FreeBSD systems as appropriate, or rephrase to talk about "... systems with non-GNU killall ..." or the whatever the correct source for the current killall is. How-To-Repeat: man 1 killall