Bug 55538

Summary: [patch] add screenshots to desktop chapter
Product: Documentation Reporter: Josef El-Rayes <j.el-rayes>
Component: Books & ArticlesAssignee: freebsd-doc (Nobody) <doc>
Status: Closed FIXED    
Severity: Affects Only Me    
Priority: Normal    
Version: Latest   
Hardware: Any   
OS: Any   
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Description Josef El-Rayes 2003-08-13 13:10:14 UTC
		doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11/chapter.sgml:
                i added two screenshots showing a kde and a freebsd desktop
                because i think it is necessary to not only talk but also
                show how these desktop actually "look". i have not seen a
                single book or article about wm/desktops without images yet.
                                                                                                                      
                the images are available at:
                http://www.daemon.li/downloads/gnomedesktop.png
                http://www.daemon.li/downloads/kdedesktop.png
                                                                                                                      
                the gnomedesktop screenshot is taken from the gnome/freebsd
                site and the kde desktop screenshot belongs to
                arved@freebsd.org.
Comment 1 Tilman Linneweh 2003-08-13 15:06:28 UTC
* Josef El-Rayes [Mi, 13 Aug 2003 at 14:10 GMT]:
>>Description:
> 		doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11/chapter.sgml:
>                 i added two screenshots showing a kde and a freebsd desktop
>                 because i think it is necessary to not only talk but also
>                 show how these desktop actually "look". i have not seen a
>                 single book or article about wm/desktops without images yet.
>                                                                                                                       
>                 the images are available at:
>                 http://www.daemon.li/downloads/gnomedesktop.png
>                 http://www.daemon.li/downloads/kdedesktop.png

No, I don't like them. The GNOME one has a mixture of German and English on it
and a strange font. The KDE one doesn't show specific KDE Applications and contains
lots of German texts too. The KDE-FreeBSD Website has many better KDE Screenshots.
Please submit some more default-style Screenshots.

Second I don't think that the Handbook should be a screenshot gallery.
Comment 2 Josef El-Rayes 2003-08-13 15:57:26 UTC
Tilman Linneweh <tilman@arved.de> wrote:
> No, I don't like them. The GNOME one has a mixture of German and English on it
> and a strange font. The KDE one doesn't show specific KDE Applications and contains
> lots of German texts too. The KDE-FreeBSD Website has many better KDE Screenshots.
> Please submit some more default-style Screenshots.
i will try to find more suitable screenshots according to your
definitions.

> Second I don't think that the Handbook should be a screenshot gallery.
i think "screenshot gallery" is a bit exaggerated. as i only want to
provide one screenshot to give the user an impression, of what we are
actually talking about.
a picture says more than words and when talking about desktop
environments it is essential to show how it looks like.
why do we provide screenshots of sysinstall in the install chapter? 
to support the text, so why do not add 1 screenshot per desktop
environment? i will provide another pair of screenshots tomorrow.

greets, josef 
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Comment 3 Marc Fonvieille freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2003-08-13 16:25:15 UTC
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:00:37AM -0700, Josef El-Rayes wrote:
> The following reply was made to PR docs/55538; it has been noted by GNATS.
> 
> From: Josef El-Rayes <j.el-rayes@daemon.li>
> To: Tilman Linneweh <tilman@arved.de>
> Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: docs/55538: [patch] add screenshots to desktop chapter
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:57:26 +0200
> 
>  Tilman Linneweh <tilman@arved.de> wrote:
>  > No, I don't like them. The GNOME one has a mixture of German and English on it
>  > and a strange font. The KDE one doesn't show specific KDE Applications and contains
>  > lots of German texts too. The KDE-FreeBSD Website has many better KDE Screenshots.
>  > Please submit some more default-style Screenshots.
>  i will try to find more suitable screenshots according to your
>  definitions.
>  
>  > Second I don't think that the Handbook should be a screenshot gallery.
>  i think "screenshot gallery" is a bit exaggerated. as i only want to
>  provide one screenshot to give the user an impression, of what we are
>  actually talking about.
>  a picture says more than words and when talking about desktop
>  environments it is essential to show how it looks like.

In that section, links to the FreeBSD GNOME Project and to the
FreeBSD-KDE team's web sites were added also for that purpose.  These
sites provide screenshots and many informations.  It would be useless to
"re-invent" the wheel. (look at
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/screenshots.html for example).

>  why do we provide screenshots of sysinstall in the install chapter? 
>  to support the text, so why do not add 1 screenshot per desktop
>  environment? i will provide another pair of screenshots tomorrow.

The case is different, it's really difficult to talk about various
Sysinstall steps without some screenshots.  And Sysinstall is a part of
FreeBSD, GNOME and KDE are third party softwares, it's not the aim of
our documentation to provide screenshots of every apps around, links are
provided for that purpose.
We already talked about that "screenshot problem" about one year ago,
and with the same conclusion.

Marc
Comment 4 josef freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2004-01-15 22:16:14 UTC
State Changed
From-To: open->closed

This one can be closed, the originator said.