Bug 65477
| Summary: | release notes: installation instruction fail to mention Knoppix as alternative for partioning tools | ||
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| Product: | Documentation | Reporter: | Hal Burch <Hal_Burch> |
| Component: | Books & Articles | Assignee: | Bruce A. Mah <bmah> |
| Status: | Closed FIXED | ||
| Severity: | Affects Only Me | ||
| Priority: | Normal | ||
| Version: | Latest | ||
| Hardware: | Any | ||
| OS: | Any | ||
Szakacsits Szabolcs suggests referring to ntfsresize instead of QtParted under Knoppix, since ntfsresize runs under FreeBSD. His suggestion seems good, although I have not tried using ntfsresize directly. My only complaints with pointing to ntfsresize under FreeBSD is that: 1. It requires you to install FreeBSD first (not available on boot CD) 2. I was unable to find ntfsprogs or ntfsresize in the ports collection Neither of these are catastrophes. - Hal ------- Forwarded Message Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:14:54 +0200 (MEST) From: Szakacsits Szabolcs <szaka@sienet.hu> X-Sender: szaka@mlf.linux.rulez.org To: Hal Burch <Hal_Burch@gs10.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: misc/65477: Installation Instruction fail to mention Knoppix as alternative Hello Hal, I've seen your bug report and suggestion but I don't have access to comment it so I'm sending it to you. Please forward it to where you think it's the most appropriate if it's worth. Comments: > FIPS does NOT currently work with NTFS style partitions FIPS handles only FAT type partitions, I doubt it will ever handle NTFS. NTFS is about 20 times more complex and totally different. > QtParted is available QTParted uses ntfsresize. ntfsresize is part of the ntfsprogs package. The ntfsprogs package compiles and works on FreeBSD. So it is possible to natively resize NTFS on FreeBSD for a while. > in recent version of Knoppix, a version of Linux designed to run off Knoppix has outdated softwares. A much better, frequently updated alternative is SystemRescueCD at http://www.sysresccd.org It has all the needed, most up-to-date tools and much more (e.g. latest stable ntfsprogs, latest QTParted, etc). > CD. QtParted also supports DOS partitions. You may need to run Disk > Defragmenter under Microsoft Ntfsresize since version 1.9.0 doesn't need defragmented NTFS. For example SystemRescueCD has this version, Knoppix doesn't. More info (I'm the author and maintainer of ntfsresize and the below page): http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html Cheers, Szaka ------- End of Forwarded Message On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Hal Burch wrote: > Szakacsits Szabolcs suggests referring to ntfsresize instead of QtParted > under Knoppix, since ntfsresize runs under FreeBSD. I'd suggest, - guru level: ntfsresize + fdisk - otherwise: QTParted on SystemRecueCD > His suggestion seems good, although I have not tried using ntfsresize > directly. I've "validated" it. I have an extensive test suite and it runs just as perfectly on FreeBSD as on Linux. Although I don't remember the exact FreeBSD version I used ... > My only complaints with pointing to ntfsresize under FreeBSD is that: > 1. It requires you to install FreeBSD first (not available on boot CD) Well, 1. You can use one of the many FreeBSD Live CD's: http://forums.livecdnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=12 they can either include it or you can download a precompiled ntfsresize from somehere (or the source and compile yourself). 2. Install can include it, just like many Linux distro do or as FIPS included. Cheers, Szaka Responsible Changed From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Over to freebsd-doc, this is a release notes issue. Responsible Changed From-To: freebsd-doc->bmah Hello Bruce, since you are doing a lot in release notes regions nowadays, can you have a look at the mentioned PR please? bmah 2007-05-14 15:33:05 UTC
FreeBSD src repository
Modified files:
release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/common install.sgml
Log:
Mention tools (specifically ntfsresize, QTPartd, and SystemRescueCD)
that can be used for resizing NTFS partitions (to make room for
FreeBSD).
Based on some text that was...
Submitted by: Hal Burch, Szakacsits Szabolcs
PR: 65477
MFC after: 3 days
Revision Changes Path
1.36 +15 -16 src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/common/install.sgml
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State Changed From-To: open->patched Committed some text based on discussion in this PR in src/release/doc/en_US-ISO8859-1/installation/common.sgml rev. 1.36. As an editorial comment, the document in question needs replacement, not revision, although I've been working on a replacement off and on for several years without actually finishing it. Putting this PR to patched state (MFC to RELENG_6 and RELENG_5 pending). bmah 2007-05-14 17:14:36 UTC
FreeBSD src repository
Modified files:
release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/common install.sgml
Log:
GParted seems to have replaced QTParted on the System Rescue CD,
so reflect this. Somewhat related to...
PR: 65477
Revision Changes Path
1.37 +1 -1 src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/common/install.sgml
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bmah 2007-05-18 14:05:25 UTC
FreeBSD src repository
Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_6)
release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/common install.sgml
Log:
MFC: Mention tools (specifically ntfsresize, GParted, and SystemRescueCD)
that can be used for resizing NTFS partitions (to make room for
FreeBSD).
install.sgml 1.35 -> 1.37
PR: 65477
Revision Changes Path
1.32.2.3 +15 -16 src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/common/install.sgml
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bmah 2007-05-18 14:13:15 UTC
FreeBSD src repository
Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_5)
release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/common install.sgml
Log:
MFC: Mention tools (specifically ntfsresize, GParted, and SystemRescueCD)
that can be used for resizing NTFS partitions (to make room for
FreeBSD).
install.sgml 1.35 -> 1.37
PR: 65477
Revision Changes Path
1.27.2.5 +15 -16 src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/common/install.sgml
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State Changed From-To: patched->closed New text MFCed to RELENG_6 and RELENG_5, closing PR. Thanks for the info...sorry it took so long to get around to this! |
Section 1.6.1 of 5.2.1-RELEASE says: FIPS does NOT currently work with NTFS style partitions. To split up such a partition, you will need a commercial product such as Partition Magic. Sorry, but this is just the breaks if you've got a Windows partition hogging your whole disk and you don't want to reinstall from scratch. QtParted will repartition NTFS-style partitions. It is available using Knoppix 3.3. I've used it on two different systems without problems. Fix: Suggest rewording: FIPS does NOT currently work with NTFS style partitions. To split up such a partition, you will need either a commercial product such as Partition Magic or use QtParted. QtParted is available in recent version of Knoppix, a version of Linux designed to run off CD. QtParted also supports DOS partitions. You may need to run Disk Defragmenter under Microsoft Windows first, which is available under System Tools in the Accessories submenu of the Start Menu. Knoppix is available at http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html The Knoppix website is spartan and a bit confusing. It may be more useful to directly link to the list of mirrors: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/ How-To-Repeat: N/A