Bug 80861

Summary:	5.4 stable release is missing miniinst.iso file
Product:	Base System	Reporter:	FBSD mailing List <fbsd_user>
Component:	misc	Assignee:	FreeBSD Release Engineering <re>
Status:	Closed FIXED
Severity:	Affects Only Me
Priority:	Normal
Version:	Unspecified
Hardware:	Any
OS:	Any

Description FBSD mailing List 2005-05-10 16:30:02 UTC

    The ftp mirror sites are missing the miniinst.iso file for 5.4 stable.

Fix: 

Release team needs to correct
How-To-Repeat:      Check it out your self

Comment 1 Mark Linimon freebsd_committer

2005-05-16 22:21:09 UTC

Responsible Changed
From-To: freebsd-i386->freebsd-bugs

This is not specific to i386 hardware, which is what that category is for.

Comment 2 Kris Kennaway freebsd_committer

2005-05-17 23:32:41 UTC

Responsible Changed
From-To: freebsd-bugs->re

Assign to re for evaluation

Comment 3 Scott Long freebsd_committer

2005-05-18 00:09:17 UTC

State Changed
From-To: open->closed

See section 2.6 of the release notes.

Comment 4 FBSD mailing List 2005-05-18 01:45:48 UTC

Section 2.6 of the release notes does not say anything about the
miniinst.iso being discontinued.

The purpose of the miniinst.iso was it's small file size for the users with
only modem dial up connections. It's next to imposable to keep an 5 hour ftp
connection to any of the ftp mirror sites because the ftp servers swaps the
session out for slow activity. This action of not providing the miniinst.iso
is saying the hell with the FreeBSD modem user community. This is very short
sighted and arrogant move.

This pr should be reopened and the miniinst.iso file created like before.
How could a major facility like this be turned off without getting feedback
from the questions list first?

Comment 5 FBSD mailing List 2005-05-18 03:21:53 UTC

Hay cool your jets. Read again what I said, the discontinuing of
miniinst.iso is an arrogant move. I don't see any words calling you
arrogant.

What good is using the FTP install method?
It has the same bandwidth problem for the modem user.
You just don't disregard the needs of the modems users like this.

You know many people considered this function important enough to
add it in and I don't see anything that changes in 5.4 to justify
discontinuing it.

If there a justification for discontinuing it then this is now the
time for you to state your case.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Long [mailto:scottl@samsco.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:10 PM
To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com
Cc: re@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: misc/80861: 5.4 stable release is missing miniinst.iso
file

fbsd_user wrote:
> Section 2.6 of the release notes does not say
> anything about the miniinst.iso being discontinued.
>
> The purpose of the miniinst.iso was it's small file size for the
> users with only modem dial up connections. It's next to imposable
to
> keep an 5 hour ftp connection to any of the ftp mirror sites
because
> the ftp servers swaps the session out for slow activity.  This
> action of not providing the miniinst.iso is saying the hell with
the
> FreeBSD modem user community. This is very short sighted and
> arrogant move.
>
>

If modem bandwidth is the problem, your best choice is still to use
the
FTP install method.  I purposely insisted on keeping it as a valid
option for exactly those with limited bandwidth like yourself.
Recall also that the ISO images have always been provided as a
courtesy
and that we highly encourage users to support CDROM vendors, since
supporting them supports the project and the developers.

I take personal offense to you calling me arrogant.  You, sir, have
never met me or know anything about me, and I fail to see how you
can
be justified in throwing insulting terms around with reckless
abandon.
Every person on the release engineering team is an unpaid volunteer,
and insults like yours are completely inappropriate and uncalled
for.

Scott