Bug 86970

Summary: The new web site look and feel is not FreeBSDish as we all know and love
Product: Documentation Reporter: George Danchev <danchev>
Component: Books & ArticlesAssignee: freebsd-doc (Nobody) <doc>
Status: Closed FIXED    
Severity: Affects Only Me    
Priority: Normal    
Version: Latest   
Hardware: Any   
OS: Any   

Description George Danchev 2005-10-06 07:30:17 UTC
              The new web site looks like a commercial portal instead of free software one. It is not as clean as the old one was. Too many buzztricks in front of it and important information is thrown away somewhere behind that new and stupid face. It doesn't fit the look of the handbook as found currently at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
and other useful resources we all know and love.

Fix: 

Return the old site look and feel or make the new one looks like it at least as much as possible
How-To-Repeat:               visit www.freebsd.org
Comment 1 George Danchev 2005-10-06 08:27:25 UTC
To elaborate a little bit. 

	I'm not a webmaster that's for sure, but what I miss from the old site are 
the two panes directly displaying important bullet lists information (about 
Platforms, Software, Documentation, Support, Bug Reports, Development, 
Release, etc). Now I should dig the new site and following uneeded links to 
get the informations. Please add the old, good and informative panes from the 
old site.

	Also you do not need big pictures in the center of the site, it should be 
feel with important texts (as it used to be). 

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Comment 2 Ceri Davies freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2005-10-06 09:15:46 UTC
State Changed
From-To: open->closed

The PR database is for bugs.  I don't consider this a bug. 

Please raise your issues on the appropriate mailing list 
(www@FreeBSD.org) for discussion.
Comment 3 Murray Stokely 2005-10-06 19:44:50 UTC
This PR is probably just going to be closed.  You'll need to be more
specific if you want specific changes made.  We appreciate feedback
but this is not helpful feedback.  'just change it back' is going to
get lost in the noise of the more positive or more detailed
criticisms.  We have other more specific CSS/layout issues to addres.

The old site was cluttered and difficult to find any information. It
was also about a decade old and many of the pages were huge and poorly
structured as it had grown organically since 1995.

	- Murray

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:21:04AM +0000, George Danchev wrote:
> 
> >Number:         86970
> >Category:       www
> >Synopsis:       The new web site look and feel is not FreeBSDish as we all know and love
> >Confidential:   no
> >Severity:       non-critical
> >Priority:       low
> >Responsible:    freebsd-www
> >State:          open
> >Quarter:        
> >Keywords:       
> >Date-Required:
> >Class:          change-request
> >Submitter-Id:   current-users
> >Arrival-Date:   Thu Oct 06 06:30:17 GMT 2005
> >Closed-Date:
> >Last-Modified:
> >Originator:     George Danchev
> >Release:        
> >Organization:
> government / military
> >Environment:
> >Description:
>               The new web site looks like a commercial portal instead of free software one. It is not as clean as the old one was. Too many buzztricks in front of it and important information is thrown away somewhere behind that new and stupid face. It doesn't fit the look of the handbook as found currently at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
> and other useful resources we all know and love.
> 
> >How-To-Repeat:
>               visit www.freebsd.org
> >Fix:
>               Return the old site look and feel or make the new one looks like it at least as much as possible
> >Release-Note:
> >Audit-Trail:
> >Unformatted:
> _______________________________________________
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Comment 4 George Danchev 2005-10-06 21:21:17 UTC
On Thursday 06 October 2005 21:44, Murray Stokely wrote:
> This PR is probably just going to be closed.  You'll need to be more
> specific if you want specific changes made.  We appreciate feedback
> but this is not helpful feedback.  'just change it back' is going to
> get lost in the noise of the more positive or more detailed
> criticisms.  We have other more specific CSS/layout issues to addres.

Ok, I admit that I was quite annoyed thus being too fast this morning filing a 
non-detailed PR. The thread of my explanations/wishlists start from here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-www/2005-October/002909.html

p.s. I'm not subscribed to the list, please cc.

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