Bug 96965
| Summary: | Unix User's Group in Bloomington/Normal, IL | ||
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| Product: | Documentation | Reporter: | Frank Even <dfjkl> |
| Component: | Books & Articles | Assignee: | Remko Lodder <remko> |
| Status: | Closed FIXED | ||
| Severity: | Affects Only Me | ||
| Priority: | Normal | ||
| Version: | Latest | ||
| Hardware: | Any | ||
| OS: | Any | ||
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Description
Frank Even
2006-05-08 04:20:13 UTC
Hello Frank, Monday, May 8, 2006, 5:19:32 AM, you wrote: >>Number: 96965 >>Category: www > UHACC - Unix Hobbyists' Administrators' & Coders' Club > Required Information: > 1. A URL for the user group's website. > http://uhacc.org looks like this site is offline. > 3. A short (one paragraph) description of the user group. > each week in the form of diverse and interesting tech and > development projects, all using Unix or Linux platforms. does this group have any FreeBSD users as well? -- Sincerely, Daniel Gerzo > From: Daniel Gerzo <danger@rulez.sk> > To: Frank Even <dfjkl@uhacc.org> > Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: www/96965: Unix User's Group in Bloomington/Normal, IL > Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 12:43:48 +0200 > > Hello Frank, > > Monday, May 8, 2006, 5:19:32 AM, you wrote: > > >>Number: 96965 > >>Category: www > > > UHACC - Unix Hobbyists' Administrators' & Coders' Club > > > Required Information: > > 1. A URL for the user group's website. > > > http://uhacc.org > > looks like this site is offline. The site is NOT offline and has NOT been for years (long before I joined up). I also did not actually receive this e-mail you sent. I checked the logs on the UHACC server and this message never hit it. Checking your domain....I can see that the UHACC server is able to communicate with your mail servers....you are not in any of our blacklists or firewall rules....so I'm guessing your inability to see our site or deliver us e-mail is on your end and not ours. $ host mail.rulez.sk mail.rulez.sk has address 84.16.32.226 $ host mailhub.cia.sk mailhub.cia.sk has address 72.21.48.70 $ host mail-relay1.wilbury.sk mail-relay1.wilbury.sk has address 217.73.17.21 $ telnet mail.rulez.sk 25 Trying 84.16.32.226... Connected to mail.rulez.sk. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.rulez.sk ESMTP > > 3. A short (one paragraph) description of the user group. > > > each week in the form of diverse and interesting tech and > > development projects, all using Unix or Linux platforms. > > does this group have any FreeBSD users as well? Being a FreeBSD user myself and a member/representative of this organization....it would seem that we do have at least one person that uses FreeBSD and thought it would be good for the world to know that there is a place in Bloomington/Normal, IL that they too may feel welcome. I am the resident BSD fanatic, along with MacOSX as my desktops, other members have worked with FreeBSD in the past, and a couple others have it installed in various places. At least one other member that I can think of also uses MacOSX as his desktop of choice. IF you look at our site (which I assure you, is quite available), you will see that we are not limited in scope. We welcome Linux users, BSD users, Solaris users, AIX users, HP-UX users....basically, anyone that would prefer to use a Unix or unix-like system. About the only thing we probably frown on is SCO Unix for what I would hope would be obvious reasons nowadays (although we would not burn anyone at the stake for using it...you can't always be responsible for the decisions of others....although if you voluntarily chose it...we might start to wonder). Sincerely, Frank Even fheven@elitists.org dfjkl@uhacc.org http://uhacc.org On 2006-05-09 16:19, Daniel Gerzo <danger@rulez.sk> wrote: > Hello Frank, > > well, it seems to be some routing issue at my home-provider, because > I'm unable to reach your server from home, althought it really works > from my servers. Sorry that I haven't checked from other places. I home > that the following diff is all right, thank you for using and > supporting FreeBSD! The diff looks fine, but no matter how many times I try (to verify the <name></name> stuff is ok, I can't reach the server from here either :( % --- usergroups.xml.orig Tue May 9 16:04:30 2006 % +++ usergroups.xml Tue May 9 16:12:24 2006 % @@ -831,6 +831,22 @@ % </description> % </entry> % % + <entry id="uhacc" continent="North America"> % + <name>Unix Hobbyists' Administrators' & Coders' Club</name> % + <url>http://uhacc.org</url> % + <description> % + U.H.A.C.C. is a fellowship of individuals united by a common % + interest in UNIX® or Linux systems and open technologies. At % + meetings you may find beginners and pros alike discussing system % + setup, networking, configuration, free/open source software, % + coding, tech culture, politics, upcoming events, games, or any % + other topic under the sun that pertains to operating "that" kind % + of system. You can also find us applying what we learn each week % + in the form of diverse and interesting tech and development % + projects, all using UNIX® or Linux platforms. % + </description> % + </entry> % + % <entry id="cnfug" continent="Other Areas"> % <name>The China FreeBSD User Group (CNFUG)</name> % <url>http://www.cnfug.org</url> Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-05-09 16:19, Daniel Gerzo <danger@rulez.sk> wrote: > >>Hello Frank, >> >>well, it seems to be some routing issue at my home-provider, because >>I'm unable to reach your server from home, althought it really works >>from my servers. Sorry that I haven't checked from other places. I home >>that the following diff is all right, thank you for using and >>supporting FreeBSD! > > > The diff looks fine, but no matter how many times I try (to verify the > <name></name> stuff is ok, I can't reach the server from here either :( > > % --- usergroups.xml.orig Tue May 9 16:04:30 2006 > % +++ usergroups.xml Tue May 9 16:12:24 2006 > % @@ -831,6 +831,22 @@ > % </description> > % </entry> > % > % + <entry id="uhacc" continent="North America"> > % + <name>Unix Hobbyists' Administrators' & Coders' Club</name> > % + <url>http://uhacc.org</url> > % + <description> > % + U.H.A.C.C. is a fellowship of individuals united by a common > % + interest in UNIX® or Linux systems and open technologies. At > % + meetings you may find beginners and pros alike discussing system > % + setup, networking, configuration, free/open source software, > % + coding, tech culture, politics, upcoming events, games, or any > % + other topic under the sun that pertains to operating "that" kind > % + of system. You can also find us applying what we learn each week > % + in the form of diverse and interesting tech and development > % + projects, all using UNIX® or Linux platforms. > % + </description> > % + </entry> > % + > % <entry id="cnfug" continent="Other Areas"> > % <name>The China FreeBSD User Group (CNFUG)</name> > % <url>http://www.cnfug.org</url> Well...I actually received this e-mail, so that means you CAN reach the UHACC server in some sense...as the message I received was relayed through it. Can you please give me some idea of where "here" is you are trying to reach the box from? I assure you the site is up. It would not be the first time I've seen a router on the backbone misconfigured dropping innocent traffic though (I've had to work with a few backbones before to put sites back online that they had routing "issues" with). You are not giving me any useful feedback here. I know the machine is up and serving content. If the issue is not on your end, not on ours, then it is somewhere in the middle. Can you even hit the name servers? Did you relay the e-mail through the same network that you are trying to hit the website through? I'd really like more information......"it don't work" does not really help me in troubleshooting. Google seems to have no trouble reaching us: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=uhacc ...nor does DNSReport/stuff or Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/url/-/uhacc.org/104-2534937-0559958 http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=uhacc.org franks-powerbook-g4:~ frank$ dig uhacc.org ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> uhacc.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 9438 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;uhacc.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: uhacc.org. 86111 IN A 63.150.214.21 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: uhacc.org. 86111 IN NS ns2.fcg.net. uhacc.org. 86111 IN NS ns1.fcg.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.fcg.net. 64508 IN A 63.150.214.8 ns2.fcg.net. 64508 IN A 63.150.214.9 ;; Query time: 41 msec ;; SERVER: 64.40.88.206#53(64.40.88.206) ;; WHEN: Sat May 13 14:24:09 2006 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 118 franks-powerbook-g4:~ frank$ dig @ns1.fcg.net uhacc.org ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @ns1.fcg.net uhacc.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 60492 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;uhacc.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: uhacc.org. 86400 IN A 63.150.214.21 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: uhacc.org. 86400 IN NS ns1.fcg.net. uhacc.org. 86400 IN NS ns2.fcg.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.fcg.net. 3600 IN A 63.150.214.8 ns2.fcg.net. 3600 IN A 63.150.214.9 ;; Query time: 201 msec ;; SERVER: 63.150.214.8#53(ns1.fcg.net) ;; WHEN: Sat May 13 14:24:43 2006 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 118 franks-powerbook-g4:~ frank$ dig @ns2.fcg.net uhacc.org ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @ns2.fcg.net uhacc.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27050 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;uhacc.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: uhacc.org. 86400 IN A 63.150.214.21 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: uhacc.org. 86400 IN NS ns2.fcg.net. uhacc.org. 86400 IN NS ns1.fcg.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.fcg.net. 3600 IN A 63.150.214.8 ns2.fcg.net. 3600 IN A 63.150.214.9 ;; Query time: 90 msec ;; SERVER: 63.150.214.9#53(ns2.fcg.net) ;; WHEN: Sat May 13 14:24:56 2006 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 118 Again...the site is alive. If there is a problem, it's probably between our networks then....please give me detailed information that I can use to possibly help determine what might be going on. Thanks, Frank Responsible Changed From-To: freebsd-www->remko Grab it. On 2006-05-13 14:35, Frank Even <dfjkl@uhacc.org> wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>% + >>% <entry id="cnfug" continent="Other Areas"> >>% <name>The China FreeBSD User Group (CNFUG)</name> >>% <url>http://www.cnfug.org</url> > > Well...I actually received this e-mail, so that means you CAN reach > the UHACC server in some sense...as the message I received was relayed > through it. Can you please give me some idea of where "here" is you > are trying to reach the box from? "Here" is the internal network where I work. I can reach DNS servers after a couple of attempts, but traceroute stops somewhere before your server and TCP connections never succeed: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ $ host -t ns uhacc.org. uhacc.org name server ns1.fcg.net. uhacc.org name server ns2.fcg.net. $ host ns1.fcg.net. ns1.fcg.net has address 63.150.214.8 giorgos@gothmog:/home/giorgos$ host ns2.fcg.net. ns2.fcg.net has address 63.150.214.9 $ host uhacc.org. uhacc.org has address 63.150.214.21 uhacc.org mail is handled by 10 mail.uhacc.org. uhacc.org mail is handled by 20 mail.fcg.net. $ traceroute -P tcp uhacc.org. traceroute to uhacc.org (63.150.214.21), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 10.6.0.1 (10.6.0.1) 0.853 ms 0.529 ms 0.391 ms 2 morpheus.bedc.ondsl.gr (62.103.39.225) 2.527 ms 3.649 ms 2.589 ms 3 62.103.1.80 (62.103.1.80) 19.474 ms 22.265 ms 20.774 ms 4 vlan55-k2.otenet.net (62.103.14.193) 23.662 ms 22.567 ms 24.112 ms 5 62.103.6.145 (62.103.6.145) 20.555 ms 21.470 ms 23.324 ms 6 athe-GSRb-po1.otenet.net (62.103.6.4) 23.175 ms 21.274 ms 22.581 ms 7 gig7-2-cr02-otenet.ath.oteglobe.net (62.75.3.181) 23.841 ms 25.102 ms 19.456 ms 8 pos2-0-cr02.lon.OTEGlobe.net (62.75.4.78) 85.602 ms 86.218 ms 90.890 ms 9 206.41.25.113 (206.41.25.113) 81.222 ms 81.655 ms 85.520 ms 10 so1-0-0-2488M.ar3.jfk1.gblx.net (67.17.72.26) 153.324 ms 151.203 ms 150.960 ms 11 qwest-1.ar3.JFK1.gblx.net (208.50.13.170) 156.596 ms 156.507 ms 156.849 ms 12 jfk-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.30.17) 151.245 ms 152.915 ms 156.430 ms 13 * *^C $ traceroute uhacc.org. traceroute to uhacc.org (63.150.214.21), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 10.6.0.1 (10.6.0.1) 0.578 ms 0.433 ms 0.394 ms 2 morpheus.bedc.ondsl.gr (62.103.39.225) 2.689 ms 2.750 ms 2.779 ms 3 62.103.1.80 (62.103.1.80) 21.611 ms 24.446 ms 20.448 ms 4 vlan55-k2.otenet.net (62.103.14.193) 19.518 ms 19.380 ms 22.757 ms 5 62.103.6.145 (62.103.6.145) 23.781 ms *^C $ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > I assure you the site is up. It would not be the first time I've seen > a router on the backbone misconfigured dropping innocent traffic > though (I've had to work with a few backbones before to put sites back > online that they had routing "issues" with). You are not giving me > any useful feedback here. I know the machine is up and serving > content. If the issue is not on your end, not on ours, then it is > somewhere in the middle. Can you even hit the name servers? Did you > relay the e-mail through the same network that you are trying to hit > the website through? I'd really like more information......"it don't > work" does not really help me in troubleshooting. It seems to be a problem somewhere between my location and where the site is hosted. I'll commit the diff anyway, but I can't help much with the network problems at `jfk-core-02.inet.qwest.net' :( > Again...the site is alive. If there is a problem, it's probably > between our networks then....please give me detailed information that > I can use to possibly help determine what might be going on. Ok, apart from the traceroute output above, please ask me in private email what information you need, and I'll try to provide it. Thanks for the problem report and the help with it :-) State Changed From-To: open->closed Giorgos committed the entry. Thank you very much Giorgos! The entry is already available on the site. |
