Comment 1 John Marino 2014-08-12 08:37:37 UTC

NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES is not a thing.
Man pages, by policy, are always installed.  There is a distinction between DOCS and man pages.

This solution is not valid.

Now, what is the actual problem?

Comment 2 John Marino 2014-08-12 08:56:08 UTC

Okay, I talked with antoine and he tells me NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES is valid for imake-based ports.  Let me look at this again.

Many years (~14) i have NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES=yes in make.conf, all works fine. 

Mk/Uses/imake.mk also support NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES, many ports support this option too.

But migrate to stagedir broke separation man pages and other files.

Need an opportunity not install man pages when required (example jailed environment).

Comment 5 John Marino 2014-08-12 09:12:32 UTC

Antoine says NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES is only valid for imake when there is no install.man target in the imake file.  This port's imake file has that target, so NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES should not be used.


Are you trying to set NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES in make.conf to prevent man pages from installing?  What's the actual problem this PR is trying to solve?

Comment 6 John Marino 2014-08-12 09:13:02 UTC

oops, I mean to post that before your responses.

Comment 7 John Marino 2014-08-12 09:15:58 UTC

(In reply to dmitry2004 from comment #3)
> Many years (~14) i have NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES=yes in make.conf, all works
> fine. 


No, this is not fine.  NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES is not a make.conf variable.  You are misusing it.


> 
> Mk/Uses/imake.mk also support NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES, many ports support this
> option too.

Any non-imake port that supports this is incorrect and must be fixed.


> But migrate to stagedir broke separation man pages and other files.


No, it didn't.  Man pages are not separate.


> Need an opportunity not install man pages when required (example jailed environment).

Well, jailed environment isn't a strong example.  Most people use "embedded environment".  There is a request for no-manpage installs.  It's not implemented yet.  This isn't the implementation.

(In reply to John Marino from comment #7)

> > Need an opportunity not install man pages when required (example jailed environment).
> 
> Well, jailed environment isn't a strong example.  Most people use "embedded
> environment".  There is a request for no-manpage installs.  It's not
> implemented yet.

You know anything about the implementation plans?

Comment 9 John Marino 2014-08-12 09:38:52 UTC

If I were to speculate, code would be added to bsd.port.mk that would skip installing any file located at MANPREFIX for every port.  It would be controlled by a make.conf-supported variable.

Thanks for your help.
I will wait for a desired function or imlement it and send patch ;-)

Comment 11 John Marino 2014-08-12 10:00:59 UTC

(In reply to dmitry2004 from comment #10)
> Thanks for your help.
> I will wait for a desired function or imlement it and send patch ;-)

I think such a patch will be complex as it has to interact with staging functions.  You might want to search bugzilla (ports infrastructure) to see if a PR already exists.  If not, open a PR with a feature request and describe something that that..  At least it will be documented.