Bug 217512 - boot2 is unable to load kernel directly
Summary: boot2 is unable to load kernel directly
Status: New
Alias: None
Product: Base System
Classification: Unclassified
Component: misc (show other bugs)
Version: 11.0-RELEASE
Hardware: amd64 Any
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Reported: 2017-03-03 02:11 UTC by Mark Willson
Modified: 2017-03-03 17:54 UTC (History)
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Description Mark Willson 2017-03-03 02:11:35 UTC
Loading a kernel directly using boot2 causes the invalid-opcode fault like the
following:

int=00000006  err=00000000  efl=00010046  eip=c0300000
eax=002ff000  ebx=000213d0  ecx=00000000  edx=a030ff1e
esi=00018504  edi=0008eb78  ebp=0008ebc8  esp=0000940b
cs=0008  ds=0010  es=0010    fs=0010  gs=0010  ss=0010
cs:eip=ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff-7f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
       00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
ss:esp=36 80 0d 07 90 00 00 01-e9 ba fc ff ff aa ac 84
       c0 0f 84 86 00 00 00 a8-80 74 f2 88 c5 b0 3d aa
BTX halted

This is using a GENERIC unmodified amd64 kernel (installed from HD from DVD iso source (11p1) and trying /boot/kernel/kernel at boot: prompt. SAS/SATA drive environment. Tested both MBR and GPTBOOT versions of boot2 (/boot/boot and /boot/gptboot)-no joy.

/boot/loader works with no problem as well as just press [return] at the prompt.

We need this feature to be working in our secure server environments (bypassing the loader and directly booting a highly customized, self contained kernel).

RE: boot(8) man page, 'it is possible to dispense with the third stage altogether'.  However, hitting a key and specifying '/boot/kernel/kernel' results in hard stop (impossible to reboot with crtl-alt-del) after BTX halted message--requires power cycle.  Booting '/boot/loader' works ok.

Thanks in advance.

-Mark
Comment 1 Andriy Gapon freebsd_committer 2017-03-03 09:26:14 UTC
AFAIK, this boot mode has never been supported for amd64.
Comment 2 Mark Willson 2017-03-03 17:54:50 UTC
As I understand the theory of  boot0/boot1/boot2/loader operations, boot2 should have all the registers, bios calls, and setup correct for direct execution of the kernel. Assuming, of course, that the kernel has everything that it needs compiled into the kernel [with the exception of kernel modules] and does not need any of the modifications or the boot time services, e.g. device.hints, loader.conf, etc., that the loader would supply.

Assuming there is no support for AMD64s in boot2 then--

1) there is no support for any 64 bit based CPUs (intel or amd), effectively limiting its use for booting directly into the kernel to ancient 32-bit i386 machines

2) boot.config, for the same purposes, will not work

3) boot2 cannot be used to bypass loader problems on 64 bit machines

4) boot2 can only be used to look at or changing certain temporary variables, select a different loader (very unlikely), or to fiddle with video/serial console options

5) the documentation is in error in a number of places (e.g. handbook, man, internals) and needs to note this major limitation so that others don't go down rabbit hole as well. 

I did do some additional checking and it appears that you are correct at least as far back as FreeBSD 8.x. A similar error/outcome came up on a different server/bios/config.

I also noted that boot2 does say 'FreeBSD/i386 BOOT' at its prompt (although, since i386/amd64 are the core lines for freebsd I've always thought of i386 as a subset of AMD64--anything i386 could do amd64 could do better--guess I was wrong).

Is it possible that AMD64s *could* work if the appropriate device.hints were statically linked in the kernel itself as well as any other "external" required setup done by the loader at boot time is compiled in or is there something fundamental about the architecture/BIOS support that makes this unlikely?