At a glance: > … The Support page contains a wealth of information about FreeBSD, > including mailing lists, user groups, web and FTP sites, … Happily, no mention of FTP at <https://www.freebsd.org/support/>, however "FTP" is a trigger, a signal that other parts of the page might be outdated. > … If you do not have many friends who use FreeBSD, consider using > your old FreeBSD CDs to create some more. … "CD" is another trigger. (Old CDs, really?) USB flash drive, more likely, although use of such drives will become increasingly rare. What else? …
(In reply to Graham Perrin from comment #0) Not only that, using "old" install media (which may have a post-EOL release) isn't going to give first-time FreeBSD users a great experience.
Let me know what you think of this proposed text: ... including mailing lists, user groups, web sites, release information, and links to some sources of UNIX(R) information. ... If you do not have many friends who use FreeBSD, consider creating FreeBSD install media and introducing new users to your favorite operating system. I think the page is otherwise fine. diff: --- a/website/content/en/projects/newbies.adoc +++ b/website/content/en/projects/newbies.adoc @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ The latest FreeBSD releases are available link:../../where/[here]. Before you be * Join the FreeBSD-Questions mailing list to see the questions you were too afraid to ask, and their answers. Subscribe by filling out the following form: https://lists.FreeBSD.org/subscription/freebsd-questions. You can look up old questions and answers via the link:../../search/#mailinglists[search] page. * The FreeBSD https://forums.freebsd.org[Forums] offer another support channel. Many users have written various tutorials and lots of new users receive help there. * You can link:../../search/[search] the Handbook and FAQ, the whole web site, or the FreeBSD mailing list archives. -* The link:../../support/[Support] page contains a wealth of information about FreeBSD, including mailing lists, user groups, web and FTP sites, release information, and links to some sources of UNIX(R) information. +* The link:../../support/[Support] page contains a wealth of information about FreeBSD, including mailing lists, user groups, web sites, release information, and links to some sources of UNIX(R) information. == Learning about FreeBSD-derived projects @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ FreeBSD is widely used as a building block for other commercial and open-source Everyone has something to contribute to the FreeBSD community, even newbies! Some are busy working with the new advocacy group and some have become involved with the link:../../docproj/[Documentation Project] as reviewers. Other FreeBSD newbies might have particular skills and experiences to share, either computer related or not, or just want to meet new newbies and make them feel welcome. There are always people around who help others simply because they like to. -Friends who run FreeBSD are a great resource. No book can replace chatting on the phone or across a pizza with someone who has the same interests, enjoys similar accomplishments, and faces the same challenges. If you do not have many friends who use FreeBSD, consider using your old FreeBSD CDs to create some more. +Friends who run FreeBSD are a great resource. No book can replace chatting on the phone or across a pizza with someone who has the same interests, enjoys similar accomplishments, and faces the same challenges. If you do not have many friends who use FreeBSD, consider creating FreeBSD install media and introducing new people to your favorite operating system. link:../../usergroups/[User groups] are good places to meet other FreeBSD users. If there is no one nearby, you might consider starting one!
(In reply to Ed Maste from comment #2) Thanks, difficult for me to visualise as a diff but I'm sure it'll be fine.
(In reply to Graham Perrin from comment #3) Yep, that's why I also included the two modified sentences by themselves. Will commit shortly.
A commit in branch main references this bug: URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/doc/commit/?id=3baeb7fca921552b8add476d03a4a67d8f03cc62 commit 3baeb7fca921552b8add476d03a4a67d8f03cc62 Author: Ed Maste <emaste@FreeBSD.org> AuthorDate: 2023-07-18 17:09:11 +0000 Commit: Ed Maste <emaste@FreeBSD.org> CommitDate: 2023-07-18 23:14:36 +0000 Newbies: remove outdated references to FTP sites and CDs PR: 263351 Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation website/content/en/projects/newbies.adoc | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)