Bug 270601 - freebsd-hackers and freebsd-stable list archives: for some messages, URLs have changed
Summary: freebsd-hackers and freebsd-stable list archives: for some messages, URLs hav...
Status: Open
Alias: None
Product: Services
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Mailing Lists (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: Any Any
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Assignee: postmaster
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Reported: 2023-04-02 15:43 UTC by Graham Perrin
Modified: 2023-05-26 13:11 UTC (History)
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Description Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2023-04-02 15:43:19 UTC
<https://www.phoronix.com/news/FreeBSD-13.1-RC6-Released> refers to: 

<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable/2022-May/000762.html>

The oldest Wayback Machine capture, <https://web.archive.org/web/20220506012657/https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable/2022-May/000762.html>, was entitled: 

> FreeBSD 13.1-RC6 Now Available

FreeBSD's list archive currently presents a different email: 

> nfs client's OpenOwner count increases without bounds
Comment 1 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2023-04-02 15:50:02 UTC
As far as I can tell, the required email currently has a different ID (000770, previously 000762): 

  <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable/2022-May/000770.html>

It seems that breakage occurred last year, some time between: 

* 2022-05-25, the proper content captured at 
  <https://web.archive.org/web/20220525063710/https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable/2022-May/000762.html>

* 2022-06-12, the wrong content captured at 
  <https://web.archive.org/web/20220612150139/https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable/2022-May/000762.html>.
Comment 2 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2023-05-24 00:25:16 UTC
Another example …

Bug 260994 refers to <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2022-January/000741.html> (000741), which is currently: 

> Re: strange compiling problems on AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with freebsd-current

– that is unrelated to the bug. 


At the time of me linking, it was probably this, from Warner: 

> Re: 5.9 points Re: 7.0 points 5.1 points Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas

– that is currently <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2022-January/000745.html> (000745).
Comment 3 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2023-05-24 00:27:57 UTC
(In reply to Graham Perrin from comment #2)

Two more examples from the same period (January 2022). 


A) 

<https://web.archive.org/web/20220110221940/https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2022-January/000751.html> (000751) was: 

> Debugging a (potentially?) ZFS-related panic, and discussion about large patchsets

<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2022-January/000751.html> is now: 

> Re: Out-of-swap killer and SIGTERM signal


B) 

<https://web.archive.org/web/20220128020223/https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2022-January/000800.html> (000800) was: 

> Re: Dragonfly Mail Agent (dma) in the base system

<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2022-January/000800.html> is now: 

> Re: Which disk is which?
Comment 4 Charlie Li freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2023-05-24 01:04:13 UTC
We don't need the mailing lists themselves as CCs; they have way too many subscribers between them, particularly for something that only postmaster@ can do much about.
Comment 5 Mark Millard 2023-05-24 05:05:03 UTC
If I remember right, there was a time when some
messages turned up missing or showing up in the
wrong month/place --and the fixes involved
renumbering to make room for those messages in
the right places. This means that there was a
time frame in which references were established
that end up no longer referencing what was
intended.

Basically, once messed up, no adjustment would
keep everything working as intended and a choice
was made.

If that is a correct memory, it may be that some
of this is "already fixed as best we can".