I'm running FreeBSD 14.2 on a ARM64 Machine. I also have a FreeBSD 13.4 Machine running on AMD64. I update the installed packages on both machines at the same time regularly. Some time now only the AMD64 machine gets updates. The ARM64 version claims no new updates are there. That's wrong. The pkg package itself is outdated. On AMD64 i installed version 2.1.2 today while the ARM64 machine claims that 1.21.3 is the current version. [root@midgard ~]# pkg upgrade -f pkg Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date. Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) The following 1 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: pkg-1.21.3 Number of packages to be reinstalled: 1 Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y [1/1] Reinstalling pkg-1.21.3... [1/1] Extracting pkg-1.21.3: 100% What I'm doing wrong or is there a problem with the ARM64 pkg repository Regards Estartu
It seams that the pkg repository of aarch64 is not updated. the newest file in https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:aarch64/quarterly/ is from March 31. 2025 That's around the time when updates on my arm64 machine stopped
The newest file in https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:amd64/quarterly/ if from Mai 8. 2025.
https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:13:aarch64/quarterly/ has the current files.
Looking at https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/builds?type=package&all=1 with appropriate searches and sorting shows: 142arm64's quarterly started building on Sat, 10 May 2025 03:10:18 GMT and still has 6716 to go, having built 28212 so far in 141:14:58 . The prior analogous, but much smaller (incemental) build, was for 141arm64 and started on Sat, 29 Mar 2025 05:35:24 GMT taking 50:28:17 . One issue is that as of pkg 2.1.0+ being involved, the (nearly) from-scratch builds take somewhat longer compared to when pkg 2.0.6 or before was involved. The arm64/armv7 systems (ampere*) are not the faster systems. Another is that ampere1 cycles through building 4 distinct build types (arm64/armv7 combined with 14.2/13.4), unlike amd64 systems that build just one type each and the next build is of the same type. (There are far more amd64/i386 systems.) A result of both of the above is that a build cycle of the 4 builds can take much of a month to complete and start the next cycle, at least when the cycle has large numbers of build to do for each type. No so long when they happen to be small incremental builds instead. (Quarterly gets such smaller builds far more often.) Another issue is that ampere1 has been crashing a lot in recent times. (Cause unknown as far as I know.) There were 4 crashes in April and 1 sigterm so far in May. The crashes insert delays. Do not expect arm64 and amd64 to be synchronized. If the 6716 finish without a crash, there should finally be a 142arm64 quarterly update, one that would include pkg 2.1.2 .
I made a graph to quickly see the age of a pkg repo. https://www.klop.ws/pkgstats/pkg-age.html It shows what Mark says. Arm (red/orange) is always behind on Intel/AMD (blue/green). Q2 starting in the beginning of April was a slow start for both architectures, and Intel/Amd recovered more quickly. Cheers.
(In reply to Mark Millard from comment #4) 142arm64-quarterly finished: Set Ports Jail Build default quarterly 142arm64 a764c067888b Queued Built Failed Skipped Ignored Remaining Status 36449 34898 98 461 992 0 done: Started (UTC) Elapsed Server Sat, 10 May 2025 03:10:18 GMT 199:34:32 ampere1 It took 199Hrs+ for this pkg 2.1.2 based context to build. This means that the ports tree it used was from somewhat over 8 days before, as of when it finished building. (Some more time goes into distribution to servers around the world as well.) ampere1 has started 42releng-armv7-quarterly's build. It has been in progress for about 19:54:59 .
(In reply to schmidt from comment #2) The last build to finish for 142arm64-quarterly started-then-finished on =>> Building games/DDNet build started at Sun May 18 09:40:48 UTC 2025 . . . building for: FreeBSD 142arm64-quarterly-job-11 14.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 14.2-RELEASE-p3 arm64 . . . build of games/DDNet | DDNet-19.0_1 ended at Sun May 18 10:12:28 UTC 2025 It built 34898 packages. Counting through creating the repo from the builds, it took 199:34:32 . (There is more time after that before the stages for distribution finish.) Luckily, your interest is in quarterly, which does not normally build such a large number of packages (incremental updates in quarterly tend to be much smaller for each of the 4 types of builds done by ampere1). So it is not as likely that you will have to wait around a month for the next update to get to a similar stage.
(In reply to Mark Millard from comment #7) That last note was mostly about expectations for when quarterly updates would happen. I probably should not have repeated as much information from my prior comment as I did.