Cy, Should nut be in the operator group? I'm not yet proposing we do that by default. At present, I'm just wondering if it needs to be in there for shutdown. After a recent power outage, I've concluded nut is not actually shutting down the servers: Jul 6 11:17:45 r730-01 upsmon[2468]: Exiting upsmon program after initiating shutdown Jul 6 11:17:45 r730-01 upsmon[2466]: upsmon parent: Unable to call shutdown command: /sbin/shutdown Jul 6 11:17:45 r730-01 upsmon[2466]: upsmon parent: Exiting after trying to call (256) shutdown command: /sbin/shutdown That, combined with each NVMe now having an UNSAFE SHUTDOWN value one greater than last week, led me to believe the host was not being shutdown. The logs also don't show the jails being shutdown as expected. Could it be as simple as nut not being in the right groups? [14:37 r730-03 dvl ~] % id nut uid=316(nut) gid=316(nut) groups=316(nut),68(dialer) "pw group mod operator -m nut" Side note: why dialer? more detail at https://dan.langille.org/2026/07/06/during-a-power-outage-how-do-the-three-servers-in-the-basement-react/