Bug 155135 - [boot] Does Not Boot On a Very Standard Hardware
Summary: [boot] Does Not Boot On a Very Standard Hardware
Status: Closed Overcome By Events
Alias: None
Product: Base System
Classification: Unclassified
Component: amd64 (show other bugs)
Version: 8.2-RELEASE
Hardware: Any Any
: Normal Affects Only Me
Assignee: Mark Linimon
URL:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2011-02-28 22:50 UTC by John
Modified: 2018-05-31 15:50 UTC (History)
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2011-02-28 22:50 UTC, John
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Description John 2011-02-28 22:50:02 UTC
I can't boot Free BSD at all.

I have pretty much standard computer hardware. Nothing exotic. Just C2D
with Intel chipset (ICH8) and NV 8400M GT. I attach "lshw" in html for easier reading.

Having tried many, many Linux distros, I AM VERY CURIOUS. But how can I try BSD if it does not work even for the basic hardware? I would like to, but how?

Description: After a bunch of code, and loading something from DVD, I am presented for 3s with some options, i.e. the "bootloader choice". Shouldn't it be the other way? First show me what I want to load, and then I chose what to load, and after my choice the system loads? Why is it the other way round? Every Linux distro does this.

Should be:

1.Load the options
2.Chose the option from install/live/this kernel/that kernel/this desktop environment/ that desktop environment etc.
3.Then load what I have chosen.
4.Load the system

Is:
1.Something loads, arrow is spinning...
2....still loading...
3."bootloader choice" appears for 3s
4.I hit enter (I chose 1st option if I am that fast to catch that 3s gap)
5.The system restarts the computer

Fix: Fix BSD kernel. For real. Even with a very old Linux kernel. I have never had such issue.

Patch attached with submission follows:
How-To-Repeat: study the lshw output. Something is not right with the BSD kernel.
Comment 1 Peter Jeremy 2011-03-02 20:44:08 UTC
On 2011-Feb-28 22:49:13 +0000, John <linux-kernel@o2.pl> wrote:
>I have pretty much standard computer hardware. Nothing exotic. Just C2D
>with Intel chipset (ICH8) and NV 8400M GT.


Can you please describe the hardware and BIOS you are using:  What
brand/model of motherboard, what BIOS?  I presume you are booting
off a physical DVD - in which case, where is the drive attached?

> I attach "lshw" in html for easier reading.


I'm not sure why you think that embedding 70kB of HTML into an
otherwise plaintext report makes anything easier.  And note that it
contains virtually no useful information for these purposes.

>Description: After a bunch of code, and loading something from DVD, I am presented for 3s with some options, i.e. the "bootloader choice". Shouldn't it be the other way? First show me what I want to load, and then I chose what to load, and after my choice the system loads? Why is it the other way round? Every Linux distro does this.
>
>Should be:
>
>1.Load the options
>2.Chose the option from install/live/this kernel/that kernel/this desktop environment/ that desktop environment etc.
>3.Then load what I have chosen.
>4.Load the system


Feel free to discuss the philosophy of loading and booting Unix
kernels on an appropriate mailing list.  See 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=boot&sektion=8 and
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=loader&sektion=8 for a
description of what actually happens.

>Is:
>1.Something loads, arrow is spinning...
>2....still loading...
>3."bootloader choice" appears for 3s
>4.I hit enter (I chose 1st option if I am that fast to catch that 3s gap)
>5.The system restarts the computer


It's not clear what you mean by "bootloader choice" - this name does
not appear in the boot code and your description of the load sequence
doesn't make it clear which point in the load sequence you are
referring to.  Can you please advise exactly what is displayed and
what the 1st choice actually is.  Are you able to setup a serial
console to capture the actual output?  If not, are you able to post a
photo?

>>How-To-Repeat:
>study the lshw output.


Contains no relevant information.

> Something is not right with the BSD kernel.


If my interpretation of your description is correct, the kernel hasn't
even been loaded so this seems unlikely.

-- 
Peter Jeremy
Comment 2 Eitan Adler freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2017-12-31 08:00:49 UTC
For bugs matching the following criteria:

Status: In Progress Changed: (is less than) 2014-06-01

Reset to default assignee and clear in-progress tags.

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Comment 3 Mark Linimon freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2018-05-31 15:50:00 UTC
Unfortunately this PR was never addressed before these versions of FreeBSD went out of support.  Sorry.

If this is still a problem, please open a new PR.  Thanks.