Bug 267057 - [NEW PORT] editors/libreoffice-still – stable still branch of LibreOffice
Summary: [NEW PORT] editors/libreoffice-still – stable still branch of LibreOffice
Status: Closed Not Accepted
Alias: None
Product: Ports & Packages
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Individual Port(s) (show other bugs)
Version: Latest
Hardware: Any Any
: --- Affects Only Me
Assignee: Dima Panov
URL: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/...
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Reported: 2022-10-14 17:41 UTC by p5B2EA84B3
Modified: 2022-10-15 16:15 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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bugzilla: maintainer-feedback? (office)


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Description p5B2EA84B3 2022-10-14 17:41:29 UTC
Libreoffice: "For users who don’t need the latest features and prefer a release that has undergone more testing and bug fixing, The Document Foundation maintains the LibreOffice 7.3 family, which includes some months of back-ported fixes and is currently at version 7.3.6."

And this is exactly what is needed for a professional usecase. If you use a tool for your daily work and living, the last thing needed is sitting on a version that is battered by testing and bug fixing. 

Please recognize the needs of users who experience hell when their work gets hit by upgrading to the latest ...

So please, please keep a port with the LTO-Version.
Comment 1 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-10-15 04:31:46 UTC
<https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/book/#porting-submitting> notes the expected format for a summary line for a report such as this: 

    [NEW PORT] category/portname short description of the port

Quality assurance <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA> has a category of builds: 

* stable

– referring to <https://www.libreoffice.org/download/>, which comprises, at the time of writing, 7.3.6 and 7.4.2 – without using the acronym LTO. 

<https://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/> distinguishes between the two stable branches: 

* still

* fresh
Comment 2 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-10-15 04:55:46 UTC
(In reply to p5B2EA84B3 from comment #0)

Professional and long-term
==========================

> … a professional usecase. 

Professional Support: 
<https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/professional-support/>


> … LTO-Version.

From <https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/09/08/libreoffice-7-3-6-community/> for stable still LibreOffice 7.3.6 Community: 

>> For enterprise-class deployments, TDF strongly recommends the LibreOffice 
>> Enterprise family of applications from ecosystem partners, with 
>> long-term support options, professional assistance and Service Level 
>> Agreements: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-in-business/.
Comment 3 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-10-15 05:28:25 UTC
(In reply to p5B2EA84B3 from comment #0)

> battered by testing and bug fixing. 

Please, which non-fixed bugs caused your plea for a separate port? 

Are they mentioned on the freebsd-office list, <https://lists.freebsd.org/subscription/freebsd-office>, or do you suspect that they're upstream bugs?

----

Re: <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA> I might expect battering with nightly builds or tinderboxes (none of which are ported to FreeBSD), but not with stable releases such as 7.4.0, 7.4.1, and 7.4.2. Respectively: 

<https://codeberg.org/FreeBSD/freebsd-ports/commit/1fc4b7db57ed8620821a80c6041faced6146d19f> 
<https://codeberg.org/FreeBSD/freebsd-ports/commit/1eed3ce417e810da00912611d19e1a1d06106394> 
<https://codeberg.org/FreeBSD/freebsd-ports/commit/8b857ccb4b5692cca06b2eec198461dc80b83971>
Comment 4 Dima Panov freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-10-15 15:16:07 UTC
As maintainer, I see no reason here to drop latest *STABLE* release in favour of *PREVIOUS* stable one. 

Another showstopper here is i18n packages and dependencies. 

Keeping another release in the tree will require to bundle all i18n (All on of all off without a choice or write a long long set of lang options which is non-intuitive and confusing users) *AND* all required libraries which can be at different versions instead of present in the port tree. Office suite is very fragile and require *EXACT* dependencies versions to build and run correctly.


So my answer is no. Only one stable release will be present in ports tree. Sorry, pal, but this is a real life. Noone wants to volunteer here and I take all job with office suite mostly alone, without any sponsorship. 


Even ports quarterly users got a massive update bunch every three month so what a reason to skip office which releases every 5-8 weeks?

Take a look at https://repology.org/project/libreoffice/badges
Every major distro follows latest stable release of LibreOffice. 

If u do not want updates simply not run 'pkg upg' on your machine.
Comment 5 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-10-15 16:15:52 UTC
To the reporter: 

* answers to the question at comment #3 can be addressed to 
  the freebsd-office list

Bugzilla triage: 

* assignment to the committer who closed the report 

… and, thank you.