Bug 257347

Summary: Outdated directions to use standard optical media (CDs, DVDs) for installation of FreeBSD
Product: Documentation Reporter: Graham Perrin <grahamperrin>
Component: WebsiteAssignee: Fernando Apesteguía <fernape>
Status: Closed FIXED    
Severity: Affects Many People CC: carlavilla, doc, emaste, freebsd, minsoochoo0122, trekie
Priority: ---    
Version: Latest   
Hardware: Any   
OS: Any   
URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255057#c6
See Also: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253483
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255057
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=256412
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D36523

Description Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2021-07-23 01:13:15 UTC 
Since use of standard DVDs is no longer applicable: the website and documentation should be updated, for users' expectations to be met. 



<https://www.freebsd.org/where/>

"… DVD … sized …"



<https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall/#bsdinstall-installation-media>

"… size … DVD …" and so on. 



<https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/README.TXT>

"… DVD ISO images …"

<http://ftp-archive.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/> is currently unreachable.

<http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html#MIRRORS-CDROM> should be updated; avoid the redirection to <https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mirrors/#MIRRORS-CDROM>.

<https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mirrors/#MIRRORS-CDROM> does not scroll to the required anchor. Instead, <https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mirrors/#mirrors-cdrom>. 



<https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/faq/#where-get> refers to <https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/#mirrors/>, which does not redirect to the intended chapter. 



<https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/faq/#floppy-download> refers to <https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/#bsdinstall/>, which does not redirect to the intended chapter. 



Thanks. 

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Beyond the freebsd.org domain, <https://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsddvd13.0?id=dIk3QnYr&mv_pc=85> is OK; "… DVD (double sided) …".
Comment 1 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2021-07-23 01:27:15 UTC 
From <https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/81417/>: 

> … Current "disc" images are for 900MB …

– so, also need to update the website and documentation with regard to CDs. 

(The Handbook currently states that -disc1.iso should be burned to a CD; and so on.)

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<https://www.freebsd.org/where/#distribution> refers to <https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/#mirrors>, which does not redirect to the required chapter. 

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> <http://ftp-archive.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/> is currently unreachable.

It's now reachable.
Comment 2 Minsoo Choo 2022-03-02 15:28:48 UTC 
(In reply to Graham Perrin from comment #0)
<https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/faq/#where-get>
this one is fixed
Comment 3 Minsoo Choo 2022-03-02 15:29:35 UTC 
<https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/faq/#floppy-download>
this one is fixed too
Comment 4 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-05-17 02:08:56 UTC 
Side note: at <https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/13.1/> the largest of the -dvd1.iso files is: 

    4621281280

Downloaded: 4.3 GiB

If I'm not mistaken, this will fit a standard DVD-R: 

<https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=4.3+GiB+DVD-R>
Comment 5 commit-hook freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-07-24 17:44:10 UTC 
A commit in branch main references this bug:

URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/doc/commit/?id=47b35d930e0213f176dfd187155c3a2c171f6c6c

commit 47b35d930e0213f176dfd187155c3a2c171f6c6c
Author:     Sergio Carlavilla Delgado <carlavilla@FreeBSD.org>
AuthorDate: 2022-07-24 17:42:45 +0000
Commit:     Sergio Carlavilla Delgado <carlavilla@FreeBSD.org>
CommitDate: 2022-07-24 17:42:45 +0000

    Fix links in FAQ

    PR:             257347
    Submitted by:   grahamperrin@

 documentation/content/en/books/faq/_index.adoc | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
Comment 6 Sergio Carlavilla Delgado freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-07-24 17:45:59 UTC 
I upgraded the broken links except "#MIRRORS-CDROM".
Right now this anchor does not exist any more in the documentation.
Since the actual DVD fits inside a regular DVD I think this PR has all the problems solved.

I'm gonna close it. Thanks!
Comment 7 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-09-11 03:41:25 UTC 
(In reply to Sergio Carlavilla Delgado from comment #6)

<https://download.freebsd.org/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/13.1/> for example, will FreeBSD-13.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fit on a standard CD?

    998.5 MiB (1,047,048,192)

<https://www.freebsd.org/where/#choose-image> currently describes disc1 as for CD.
Comment 8 Graham Perrin freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2022-12-10 15:58:55 UTC 
From comment #7:

> <https://download.freebsd.org/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/13.1/> 
> for example, will FreeBSD-13.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fit on a 
> standard CD?
> 
>     998.5 MiB (1,047,048,192)

From yesterday's <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions/2022-December/002471.html> for FreeBSD 12.4-RELEASE: 

> … 959 megs:
> 
> http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.4/FreeBSD-12.4-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso
Comment 9 Minsoo Choo 2023-11-25 17:06:20 UTC 
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D42773
Comment 10 commit-hook freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2024-01-26 17:53:14 UTC 
A commit in branch main references this bug:

URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/doc/commit/?id=ea15bb64bbcd6092d914b7cc512fb9a9340aee28

commit ea15bb64bbcd6092d914b7cc512fb9a9340aee28
Author:     Minsoo Choo <minsoochoo0122@proton.me>
AuthorDate: 2024-01-26 17:50:54 +0000
Commit:     Fernando Apesteguía <fernape@FreeBSD.org>
CommitDate: 2024-01-26 17:51:05 +0000

    [hb]: CDs are not usable anymore

    FreeBSD's disc1 image has surpassed 700MB, which is CD-ROM max size. dvd1 image
    is also almost at its limit, which is 4.7GB for single layer DVD (FreeBSD 14
    dvd1 is 4541104128 bytes=4.54 GB).

    PR:                     257347
    Approved By:            releng (karels)
    Differential Revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D42773

 documentation/content/en/books/handbook/mirrors/_index.adoc | 6 +++---
 website/content/en/where.adoc                               | 4 ++--
 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
Comment 11 Mark Linimon freebsd_committer freebsd_triage 2024-11-25 05:02:53 UTC 
^Triage: committed in 20240126.